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theasus



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Tris settings problem
PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:48 am     Reply with quote

I couldn't set tris settings of 18f14k50,properly.When I didn't use tris setting my program works and I can use SPI module.But when I set tris register,it doesn't work,properly and I can't get correct value from Master side.My program is;(my compiler version is 4.114)
Code:

#include <18F14K50.H>
#include <PIC18F14K50_registers.h>
#fuses INTRC_IO, NOWDT, PUT, BROWNOUT, NOLVP, CPUDIV1,NOMCLR
#use delay(clock=4000000)
#use rs232(baud=9600, xmit=PIN_b7,rcv=PIN_b5)
int a;
#int_ssp
void ssp_isr(void)
{
a=spi_read();
}

//======================================
void main()
{
SET_TRIS_B( 0b01110000 );
SET_TRIS_C( 0x00 );
setup_spi(SPI_SLAVE | SPI_SS_DISABLED | SPI_L_TO_H);
clear_interrupt(INT_SSP);
enable_interrupts(INT_SSP);
enable_interrupts(GLOBAL);
while(1)
  {
  if(a==58)
  {
  disable_interrupts(INT_SSP);
  output_high(pin_c3);
  delay_ms(1000);
  output_low(pin_c3);
  delay_ms(1000);
  enable_interrupts(INT_SSP);
  }
  printf("\r%d",a);
  }

}

I also looked C/ASM list.But I didn't see any wrong setting related with TRIS register;
Code:

.................... SET_TRIS_B( 0b01110000 );
020C:  MOVLW  70
020E:  MOVWF  F93
.................... 
.................... SET_TRIS_C( 0x00 );
0210:  MOVLW  00
0212:  MOVWF  F94

So How can I set tris register?And How can this register effect SPI module?
Ttelmah



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:07 am     Reply with quote

Repeat after me:
If I'm going to set the tris myself, and not just let the compiler do it, I _must_ read the data sheet, and work out which pins need to be inputs, and which pins need to be outputs.....

Hint. SCK, is an _input_ on a slave device.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:08 am     Reply with quote

Since you're NOT using fast_IO mode, why not just let the compiler handle the TRIS details ?
It'll do everything automatically for you.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:25 am     Reply with quote

Ttelmah wrote:
Repeat after me:
If I'm going to set the tris myself, and not just let the compiler do it, I _must_ read the data sheet, and work out which pins need to be inputs, and which pins need to be outputs.....

Hint. SCK, is an _input_ on a slave device.

Best Wishes


I read datasheet,And I used these codes for PIC16f877.It is not related with not reading datasheet.

I need to add some codes,And I need to define other pins as input or output.(for button control or something like that).I think it is related with TRIS register.Because when I used TRISA register,It didn't work again.And As you know SPI pins aren't related with portA.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:01 am     Reply with quote

SO where ARE you ACCESSSING port A in the program you supplied in the OP ???
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:37 pm     Reply with quote

theasus wrote:
Ttelmah wrote:
Repeat after me:
If I'm going to set the tris myself, and not just let the compiler do it, I _must_ read the data sheet, and work out which pins need to be inputs, and which pins need to be outputs.....

Hint. SCK, is an _input_ on a slave device.

Best Wishes


I read datasheet,And I used these codes for PIC16f877.It is not related with not reading datasheet.

I need to add some codes,And I need to define other pins as input or output.(for button control or something like that).I think it is related with TRIS register.Because when I used TRISA register,It didn't work again.And As you know SPI pins aren't related with portA.

The data sheet for the 18F14K50, specifically says that you must _set_ the tris bit for SCK to 1, on a slave device, yet you have this bit set to 0.

If you are going to control the tris, you _must_ get it right.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:36 am     Reply with quote

I have already defined SCK pin is an input.As it shown in my codes;
SET_TRIS_B( 0b01110000 );
And I couldn't solve my problem yet.

Ttelmah wrote:
theasus wrote:
Ttelmah wrote:
Repeat after me:
If I'm going to set the tris myself, and not just let the compiler do it, I _must_ read the data sheet, and work out which pins need to be inputs, and which pins need to be outputs.....

Hint. SCK, is an _input_ on a slave device.

Best Wishes


I read datasheet,And I used these codes for PIC16f877.It is not related with not reading datasheet.

I need to add some codes,And I need to define other pins as input or output.(for button control or something like that).I think it is related with TRIS register.Because when I used TRISA register,It didn't work again.And As you know SPI pins aren't related with portA.

The data sheet for the 18F14K50, specifically says that you must _set_ the tris bit for SCK to 1, on a slave device, yet you have this bit set to 0.

If you are going to control the tris, you _must_ get it right.

Best Wishes
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:04 am     Reply with quote

Could you purpose anything? My problem is still continuing.
Couldn't I set tris register when I used SPI or uart?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:20 am     Reply with quote

Why do you want to control the TRIS register manually? In your OP you said your program ran fine when you allowed the compiler to do it's job, making your life easier!
If you do want to play with TRIS, you'll have to read the datasheet on the PIC you're using,dump the listing and see what you're doing wrong. Comparing the listings of your working code (where the compiler does the settings) and your new code, you'll see what you're doing wrong.
As you've found out, incorrect settings of the register's can cause bad things to happen.
Even after 20+ years of programming PICs, I let the compiler do it's job. Only twice in that time was it necessary to manually configure the TRIS registers.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:47 am     Reply with quote

I'm not using only SPI module. I will also receive some signal from peripheral device. So I have to define pins as inputs or outputs. And "SET_TRIS_XX" is a CCSC fuction, Isn't it?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:28 am     Reply with quote

You can have as many set_tris_X() statements you want but if you do not have #use fast_io(X) in your code the tris will not be changed. This is a must.

Ronald
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:05 am     Reply with quote

Yes,.."SET_TRIS_XX" is a function, however unless you are very, very good at programming and never intend on changing the function of I/O pins it is a LOT better to not use the set-tris-xx function.
It is not necessary to use it (and the mandatory fast_io() ). Heck there are dozens of supplied functions I've never needed or used. Just because CCS supplies them doesn't mean you have to use them.
Let the compiler automatically handle those details, after all that's probably why most people bought it!

You're making your task much harder than required. If, and it's a big IF, you need faster program execution, you might gain a little speed by using fast_io() and the tris..() functions BUT a lot depends on the overall code you create.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:17 am     Reply with quote

RS232 settings have some bugs for 18f14k50. Because another PICS like 16f877 didn't give an error for this operation. And When I don't use SPI module with RS232, It is worked well. This setting shown below effect SPI module and tris setting:
Code:

#use rs232(baud=9600, xmit=PIN_b7, rcv=PIN_b5)
 

It seems unlogical, but I couldn't find any other reason for this.
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