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supernatural problem with getc()

 
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r_karthik_r



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supernatural problem with getc()
PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:09 am     Reply with quote

Ok i did a big code of interfacing GSM with pic 16f887. It worked fine except the sms receiving part. I found the error was with the receiving serial data and start debugging that alone using a small code and got cranky.

Code:

#include <16F887.h>
#device ADC=10

#FUSES NOWDT                    //No Watch Dog Timer
#FUSES NOBROWNOUT               //No brownout reset
#FUSES NOLVP                   
#use delay(internal=8MHz)
#use rs232(baud=9600,parity=N,xmit=PIN_C6,rcv=PIN_C7,bits=8)

void main()
{
//delay_ms(10);
printf("start");
//delay_ms(1000);
printf("end");
for(;;)
{
printf("%c",getchar());
}
}


OUTPUT - startend<echos the chars i type>

but when i uncomment the delay lines

OUTPUT - start<delay>end<doesnt echo>

But it works perfect in proteus. I send the data after the "end" is printed on my serial monitor.Pls help.


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Ttelmah



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:02 am     Reply with quote

Add the keyword 'ERRORS' to the RS232 declaration.

Repeat 50*. "When using the hardware UART, I must use 'ERRORS' or have my own error handling. Repeat must."

Problem is that if two characters of _anything_ are received during the delays, the UART hardware _will_ be hung, and will not recover without ERRORS.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:15 am     Reply with quote

Ttelmah wrote:
Add the keyword 'ERRORS' to the RS232 declaration.

Repeat 50*. "When using the hardware UART, I must use 'ERRORS' or have my own error handling. Repeat must."

Problem is that if two characters of _anything_ are received during the delays, the UART hardware _will_ be hung, and will not recover without ERRORS.


bt I send the serial data after the end is printed only.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:17 am     Reply with quote

Remember a 'real' chip waking up, often _will_ see garbage characters arrive. Without ERRORS these will hang the UART. Proteus does not have such 'real' behaviour.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:04 am     Reply with quote

also....
it's real good practice to 'flush the UART buffer'(actually all buffers/variables) before 'main()' is executed. This will eliminate 100% of the 'random' data that does 'weird' things to your program.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:25 am     Reply with quote

Ttelmah wrote:
Add the keyword 'ERRORS' to the RS232 declaration.

Repeat 50*. "When using the hardware UART, I must use 'ERRORS' or have my own error handling. Repeat must."

Problem is that if two characters of _anything_ are received during the delays, the UART hardware _will_ be hung, and will not recover without ERRORS.


Really, CCS should make ERRORS the default behaviour, and have "NOERRORS" for those who want to do their own handler..
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:54 am     Reply with quote

Agreed. Especially in the Wizard, so that people not understanding this will automatically get the safe behaviour.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:44 pm     Reply with quote

The word supernatural in the header got me interested in this topic.

thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:13 pm     Reply with quote

Well Proteus doesn't care about power supplies.....Are you running the PIC at 5 volts and the GSM at 3 volts ???

That alone will certainly cause 'issues'...

Jay
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