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doguhanpala
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| programming 16f630 with pickit |
 Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:29 am |
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Hello,
I want to upload a program to 16f630 but the Pickit does not have it on device family section. I searched a bit and found this:
http://jared.geek.nz/2013/jan/adding-extra-chips-to-the-pickit-2
It says I should use the device file data editor and edit the properties of device. According to this I should change:
1. PartName
2. DeviceID
3. ProgramMem
But i don't know what these values should be, or how should i search them. Can anyone help me who has encountered this problem before?
Thank you very much!
Note: if there is an easier way to add the device library, i will take it 
best wishes
Doğuhan
Edit: i forgot to add my pickit version. I use Pickit 2, v2.61. |
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PCM programmer
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| Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:27 am |
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The 16F630 is supported by MPLAB 8.92. It's in this file:
That file is in the Microchip directory, in this sub-directory:
I don't know if the above file is compatible with the one for the
standalone programmer application. But you could always install
MPLAB vs. 8.92 and use that to program your PIC.
MPLAB installation file archives:
http://www.microchip.com/development-tools/downloads-archive |
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doguhanpala
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| Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:20 am |
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| PCM programmer wrote: | The 16F630 is supported by MPLAB 8.92. It's in this file:
That file is in the Microchip directory, in this sub-directory:
I don't know if the above file is compatible with the one for the
standalone programmer application. But you could always install
MPLAB vs. 8.92 and use that to program your PIC.
MPLAB installation file archives:
http://www.microchip.com/development-tools/downloads-archive |
Thanks for your reply. I tried to copy the 16f630.dev file to pickit 2 folder but in the pickit2 the devices are in one 'P2deviceFile.dat' file. I don't know if i tried something logical but it did not work.
I have a question.
The mplab can't find my programmer device. In the 'select programmer' section there is no Pickit 2. Should i get a pickit 3 to use mplab? |
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temtronic
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| Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:00 am |
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I've been using MPLAB v8.86 for years and it has PicKit2 as option #9. I suspect you have an older version of MPLAB?
Jay |
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doguhanpala
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| Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:54 am |
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| temtronic wrote: | I've been using MPLAB v8.86 for years and it has PicKit2 as option #9. I suspect you have an older version of MPLAB?
Jay |
i use version 8.92 and i have 7 option. i will download your version and try it.
thank you so much! |
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PCM programmer
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| Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:02 am |
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Are you sure you have vs. 8.92, and that you have 16F630 selected in
the Configure / Select Device menu ?
I have vs. 8.92 and I select 16F630, and Pickit 2 is listed in the
Programmer / Select Programmer menu. |
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doguhanpala
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| Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:40 am |
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| PCM programmer wrote: | Are you sure you have vs. 8.92, and that you have 16F630 selected in
the Configure / Select Device menu ?
I have vs. 8.92 and I select 16F630, and Pickit 2 is listed in the
Programmer / Select Programmer menu. |
it is vs 8.92. it says on the shortcut and i checked the version in "help/about mplap ide". i selected 16f630 and i see that pickit2 has a green dot right of it in the device section.
after i click programmer/select programmer there are 7 option. and pickit2 is not among them.
the list is
1) MPLAB ICD 2
2) Licensed Debugger
3) Starter kit on board
4) PICkit 3
5) MPLAB ICD 3
6) AN 851 Quick programmer Beta
7) REAL ICE
edit: i tried version 8.86 also. still no luck. |
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Ttelmah
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| Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:46 am |
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You have to use the separate PICkit2 software.
MPLAB only knows about the PICkit2 as a debugger not a programmer. |
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doguhanpala
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| Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:49 am |
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| Ttelmah wrote: | You have to use the separate PICkit2 software.
MPLAB only knows about the PICkit2 as a debugger not a programmer. |
i have pickit2 software also. it is pickit 2v2.61. the problem is it doesn't have 16f630 on the devices. |
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PCM programmer
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| Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:55 am |
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That's not true Ttelmah. In vs. 8.92 if you go to the Configure / Select
device menu, it shows a green dot for 16F630 in both the Programmer
and the Debugger sections of that window.
I think he just didn't install Pickit 2 as a device during the installation
of MPLAB. |
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Ttelmah
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| Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:27 am |
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It's a known problem.
MPLAB 8.92, only accepts a 'subset' of the chips the PICkit2 supports for programming. For all others it doesn't allow them to be selected as a programmer, only as a debugger. Several chips are missing....
It changed at about 8.61, and all the IDE's after this behave like this for a whole lot of supported chips.
He should be able to tell by setting for a chip that definitely works like the 16F877. If it then works, the problem is the MPLAB one in this regard. If it remains the same, then it is the installation one you mention.
I hit the MPLAB one a while ago, and was told by Microchip that they didn't intend to fix it... |
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doguhanpala
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| Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:05 pm |
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| PCM programmer wrote: |
I think he just didn't install Pickit 2 as a device during the installation
of MPLAB. |
That is it. such a silly mistake. Thank you so much!
I will try to program with mplab tomorrow. but i have a question. Why doesn't pickit2 support this device ? I tried to edit the dat file and saw that the file contains 16f630.
In this link it shows the pics that pickit 2 supports:
http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/PICkit%202%20Readme%20v2-61-00%20(a).txt
I can't see 16f630 as a single device. Should i choose midrange/standard devices? Can i program every pic under that headline by choosing midrange/standard device? |
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